tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post5871764960360627532..comments2024-01-01T08:56:57.641-08:00Comments on Periphery: Tolerance and Altered StatesTangledLouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-75334152087999027002012-10-26T09:56:52.834-07:002012-10-26T09:56:52.834-07:00You are so funny. I had this exact conversation wi...You are so funny. I had this exact conversation with myself a few weeks ago. "This also means seeing that, for me, right at this moment, subjectively, my views ARE superior. Otherwise they wouldn't BE mine. This is purely logical." I almost said this exact thing. Crazy. TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-77451553242865904032012-10-24T11:56:28.086-07:002012-10-24T11:56:28.086-07:00OK, it's been WAY too long since I checked my ...OK, it's been WAY too long since I checked my Google Reader. I've been following you on Facebook and hence missed this one post. Mea culpa. I spent many years deriding "tolerance" as a concept for all the reasons outlined above until it occurred to me that I agree with my own point of view. And this for me was a "Duh." moment. <br /><br />Admitting that I agree with my own point of view causes me to have to admit that I may not agree with yours. (This also means seeing that, for me, right at this moment, subjectively, my views ARE superior. Otherwise they wouldn't BE mine. This is purely logical.) <br /><br />If I'm not lying to myself, all I can strive for is tolerance. The alternative is a full frontal lobotomy. We all have opinions, stances, passions, and perspectives. I would hazard that we are made this way, that we are "supposed to." So, I see nothing shameful in celebrating and being public about my own point of view and attempting to do so with honor, integrity and kindness. I think practicing tolerance and, for me, calling for tolerance in the public sphere, is more honest than pretending I can really know what it would feel like to think in opposition to myself. <br /><br />I loved your post. I'm sorry you hated it. And I am totally stepping off my soapbox now. I hope you can use some of the bubbles to mop up your floor.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08644569152748119356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-40032524980717265522012-10-12T16:55:19.589-07:002012-10-12T16:55:19.589-07:00Hi Deb! It makes me happy to know that you still r...Hi Deb! It makes me happy to know that you still read. The commenting thing is a weird blogging construct, isn't it? It's nice to hear a hello, but not necessary. <br />That said, what a nice little shot of adrenalin to see your beautiful little hennaed hands here on my comment feed and seeing such nice words... I am humbled and flattered and so, so very grateful. xoTangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-15555082258050872492012-10-12T10:19:52.201-07:002012-10-12T10:19:52.201-07:00I keep reading your stuff and not commenting, beca...I keep reading your stuff and not commenting, because I feel like all I ever say is something along the lines of, "Good job, TangledLou. I love your writing..." <br /><br />But perhaps that's better than saying nothing at all? I'm not sure. So here I am again to say, Good job TangledLou. You inspire me, both in my life as well as in my writing. Thank you.Deb Stevenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419809243480266275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-7831395617601654592012-10-10T17:03:32.400-07:002012-10-10T17:03:32.400-07:00I am so glad that I am not the only person who get...I am so glad that I am not the only person who gets into intense, lengthy debates over stupid things with children. I just can't stop myself sometimes. My jBird is getting to the point where she wins, though. My husband just shakes his head. "You're really going to take her on about this?" <br />Why yes, it would appear I am. <br />:)TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-72062043618476426492012-10-10T16:52:19.075-07:002012-10-10T16:52:19.075-07:00I'm not all that fond of the phrase either, bu...I'm not all that fond of the phrase either, but when you've spent the past twenty minutes arguing with a six year old over something really stupid (even though you're the grown-up here, and you know better, darn it) I think it's necessary. Sometimes you just have to accept that neither of you will change your mind and move along.<br /><br />And yes, Beege could definitely be described as "strong willed". Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248662505320434618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-82639382054531183032012-10-10T08:18:43.978-07:002012-10-10T08:18:43.978-07:00Hi Jewels. Thank you. That's the only line in ...Hi Jewels. Thank you. That's the only line in this post that I really like. You have good taste. ;)TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-88577664527832354862012-10-10T08:18:11.541-07:002012-10-10T08:18:11.541-07:00It's more fun to say that way, isn't it? P...It's more fun to say that way, isn't it? Ptolerance.<br />Don't think too hard about it. This post is complete nonsense.TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-20218725017703116042012-10-10T08:17:24.983-07:002012-10-10T08:17:24.983-07:00How funny! That's a very useful phrase for the...How funny! That's a very useful phrase for the strong willed among us. Is Beege perhaps strong willed? <br />Of course it gets right up under my skin if someone says it to me!TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-85503667821137432792012-10-10T08:16:04.439-07:002012-10-10T08:16:04.439-07:00I agree with you completely.
I was playing with a...I agree with you completely. <br />I was playing with an idea for another piece of writing and posted my exercises here. I really hate this post for a number of reasons. <br />Compassion is really where it's at.TangledLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04771682524596744447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-69481643825582397472012-10-10T07:04:16.484-07:002012-10-10T07:04:16.484-07:00I guess I don't like tolerance because to me i...I guess I don't like tolerance because to me it contains the idea of holding separate, of putting up with. I hope I can accept fully, not merely tolerate. To me, tolerance is an in-between state that I'm not sure is even possible. It implies putting up with another's beliefs while still holding that your own are superior. It maintains the lie of separateness and establishes hierarchies, which are exactly what the concept of tolerance is trying to defy. The goal is then to move beyond tolerance and into compassion, which transcends beliefs rather than merely . . . tolerating them. Vesuvius At Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02783271096885148080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-59914770895209879432012-10-10T06:54:36.776-07:002012-10-10T06:54:36.776-07:00Beege and I were talking about just this the other...Beege and I were talking about just this the other day; we've added "let's agree to disagree" to her lexicon. Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248662505320434618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-1587381792537588772012-10-09T14:43:57.330-07:002012-10-09T14:43:57.330-07:00Ptolerance. I like it. :)
I think of tolerance a...Ptolerance. I like it. :) <br /><br />I think of tolerance as symbiosis. We might not be completely different organisms, but we have different opinions, thoughts and beliefs, each vital to make our environment what it is. Thought-provoking post as always.<br /><br />P.S. Papa is Preacher would like to cordially invite you to our very first Link Up party beginning tomorrow (Thursday) at 9:30 a.m. going 'till Tuesday. Please see this post for more info: http://papaisapreacher.blogspot.ca/2012/10/tidbit-thursday.html<br />We'd really be honored to see you there!<br />Larissa T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18054129254135419707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2923792986438866285.post-12791867227162362812012-10-09T13:04:01.085-07:002012-10-09T13:04:01.085-07:00"It is listening for what people are actually..."It is listening for what people are actually saying rather than hearing what you expect." So well said, as always.Julie DeMillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17929034148906710834noreply@blogger.com